that is some intense shit!!!!!

about time we got to see the end of that clip... nice job boys ... just in the right place at the right time ..

ok ryder, i believe you now

just got shivers.

If it's fake it's done very well. However - I can't find any news of this in the papers from the time. The picture of Hudson is from his trial over the shooting in the city. No mention of this double homicide in the papers. Strange.

come on guys.. you're still going with this?

Good to see you removed that advert from your marketing course that was coming up on google though...

As Dave said, no news... no police reports... and if was still under investigation you'd be unable to show the clip?

I'm going to guess that anyone worth shooting would be driving a better car than this. There are skid marks on the street (trial run boys?) Muzzle flashes can be done in post.

I think this site is good enough without needing bullshit like this..Genius bit of publicity though.

fucking sweeeet, well done

Dudes this video shocks the shit out of anyone i show it to. Its believable enough for me you got my vote.hopefully the full clip helps prove to those who accuse u of faking it, u guys kept pretty cool about it when u was staring at two shot men. This is better than the shit they preach on tv.

I dont believe it!!!

i just dont know what the fuck im spose to belive.

so many unanswered questions

i beleieve.

if it is real, why the fuck didnt you try to help the people in the car.

and you wouldnt be able to show all that footage legally it would go to court as evidence to try and track down the people who shot the other people

Well, thats just confirmed it for me. Fucking real as all fuck you dumb arses, cause I guess we've all been to a shooting before to judge this shooting authenticity. Looks like two guys get shot and killed to me.

Yeah, someone could probably fake that shit. But I'm pretty sure the vive cool city guys couldn't. They don't have the cash, that's for sure...

Anybody trying to profit from someone being hurt should be strung up by their balls. You folks are no better (actually worse) than the criminals you film. Unless this is all bullshit. Bullshit.. as in the stuff between your ears. If this is real then you are some sick fucks. As far as your little blurb about copyright infringement.. FUCK YOU! I'll do whatever I want with your fucking clips. If you don't like it then feel free to suck my dick!

Anybody trying to profit from someone being hurt should be strung up by their balls. You folks are no better (actually worse) than the criminals you film. Unless this is all bullshit. Bullshit.. as in the stuff between your ears. If this is real then you are some sick fucks. As far as your little blurb about copyright infringement.. FUCK YOU! I'll do whatever I want with your fucking clips. If you don't like it then feel free to suck my dick!

That felt so good I had to say it again.

look... i just don't know.

WTF, you are a tool

WTF - you fuckin loser, why don't you bend over and take it cookie!!

i say send it to a current affair!!! hardy har

wow- i can't believe you caught this on tape- from talking about sodomy to a drive-by shooting! melbourne is a ghetto

LOL Im guessing the posts that say it is real are those of whom are in on this little stunt. I can't believe you idiots ... and why is the car in neutral? If they were dead it would still be in drive / reverse therefore the tyres would still be spinning ... fkn drop kicks

i was there. it's real...

wtf, you're next.

Don't believe it personally. When I saw the first saw the original clip, I thought it was strange how the camera adjusted at certain times almost on queue to get what was in the background (almost seemed scripted). Also, as soon as the first gun shot was fired, the reaction of the guy doing the brothel story seemed far too quick. Almost as if he had expected it. First impressions last so I wasn't further convinced after watching the rest of the clip just now.

I gotta say though, I fuckin' loved it! You guys need to make something of a full feature movie or something similar. I would keep me glued to the screen. :)

I thought you blokes had an Israeli connection? They would have drilled you blokes to check vital signs at Kabotz

i find it a bit hard to believe that the car shooters, who were watching the entrance of the brothel for the two victims, would not have seen two kids filming less than 10m away.

Also, melbourne isn't South Africa or LA in the 90's. A double murder gets in the papers and this did not. Also the mere fact that a shooting was caught in this fashion would be newsworthy in itself. Every channel would have run with stories about this clip. They did not. IF this was a real murder we would all have done google searches and found the victims' names.

Also, generally big mammals wouldn't be dead that quickly. They would jerk around for a couple of minutes. Especially caus they didn't seem to be head shot either.

Nicely done though. you should see about directing the sequel to Heat.

Yeah, it's definitely not real, Talent scout listed precisely the key reasons i had come up with. It would be extremely rare for two men to have stopped writhing within seconds from gunshots wounds to anywhere but the head

Those gun shots sounded very Hollywood, real gunshots NEVER sound like that after being recorded.

This is fake, of course.
Go fuck yourself Website, designers, creators, and everyone else associated with this website.
thanks, gfy.

4 things to think about:
1.the shooters could easily see there were people filming
2.why is the back window broken?
3.i don't mean to get graphic but they were head shots and there isn't that much blood... the blood would still be streaming out heavily and drench their shirts.
4.you'd be little more freaking out if you saw that !!!
4.

quite OBVIOUSLY fake.
i can't even believe people believe it's real.
This footage would be confiscated by police for impending trials.
There is no way this footage would be allowed to have been spread on the internet.
go fuck yourselves.

Obviously fake , it would've been on the news , i cant beleive you guys beleive its real

fucking idiots

Regardless of whether the clip is real or not...its got us all kicking up a shit-fit-frenzya?| so the boys have done their joba?| we are all watching

i want to fuck that bitch

im in love to j.c sex him

lame.
1) guys says fuck on cue, too quickly, then knows exactly where to run. dosnt seem startled enough.
2) car convenientyly setup to film from behind
3) why didnt you try and help the victims?
4) blood not moving, increasing. head wounds continue to bleed.
5) guy says seriously injured, but dosnt even check a pulse or whatever.
6) i dont know you, but would the video camera guy seriously continue to zoom in and out on the faces of the dudes before seeing if they were alive?
7) if you just saw a shooting, would you seriously just run out onto the street in the ghetto before calling the cops?

Nice work fellas. It's staged (very well done though) haha, worked great as a publicity stunt, HECK it got me here.

By the way "as if we'd be able to afford to be able to smash up on of our own cars for stupid video?" haha that car is a $200 piece of garbage running on gas, that you probably scored for free off a mate. Brilliant work though.

1) If that was real you would've been tracked down and shot dead a very long time ago.

BTW are you sure you wanna use the 'Hells Angels' name so freely? Those guys don't give a shit who they kill, especially if you piss 'em off.

I've only just discovered your site and think it's great and edgy and all that cool shit, but I'm glad this shooting clip was about the 20th one I watched. If this was my intro I would have written you all off as a pack of try hards - it's an obvious fake for most of the reasons given above. Still, served it's purpose and I guess enabled you guys to go on and make some genuinely interesting and fun stories. I always wondered what the inverse of "today tonight" would be like, and VCC is it...

hey creepy or cool its awesome im gonna show this to some of my friends

Its Real Wikipedia It Fuck Heads

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Melbourne_CBD_shootings

This is the real thing. Dont be confused by these foolish, young minds. i am the one in the masks an shoot these two, young souls in COLD BLOOD! You cannot track my IP address because i have numerous, also i use other peoples. I wish you good luck with your hopeless minds!

M.O.B!

can people be that stupid??? who ever falls for this should be shot, but for real this time. and "dead pool" anyone can upload onto wikipedia you smart chap... and nothing on the news??? how unusual

You know apart from all the things said previously the thing that gets me the most is this:
1.It had to happen on your 100th epidsode!! I mean no other than the 100th episode great way to wrap it up.
2.why film it at night (apart that if this is a fake it would be a perfect setting) the episode didn't seemed that important to be filmed AT NIGHT!!
3.If this was real and the gunshots, the car, the running, how come no one else came out!!??? heck I'll be the first to be all over that!!!

Diz so bull y didn't u help da people retards okkkkaaayyyy

Okay I notice y when on da vid he had 2 start all over anywayz it bcuz they didn't have time for 2 tryz on da shooting

aint no joke this real shit homie i kno it cuz my homie was gunned down at the corner of my street and shit lik dis aint fake ya non believin sheltered motha fukas

'Hood Rat' was quite possibly the best comment within this entire thread of debates!

Hood rat...then you would know how fake this shit is. You're talking about sheltered. Grow up. Ever heard of special effects? And the gunshots would not be that loud or clear on this shit quality camera. To everyone else claiming its real: Why the hell would they be filming at night with shit lighting? And if you try to say 'because thats when the brothel is busiest' then please...feel free to make yourself even look even dumber. If they were in front of a brothel that's supposedly so popular, then everyone inside the brothel would've heard the gunshots as loud as they are and would've come out to be nosy. And then the people filming/running this site want to claim it was Hell's Angels related..good going genius..so im guessing none of them know how to use a computer and would've never seen this, right? If it were real at LEAST one of the Hell's Angels would've heard about this clip and gone after you. Especially the guy 'reporting' since your face is on cam the most. And then you morons decide 'hmm...we catch a shooting on tape...HEY I GOT A GREAT IDEA! LET'S POST IT ONLINE AND PUT A WATERMARK FOR OUR SITE ON IT SO WE'RE EASIER TO LOCATE BY THE HELL'S ANGELS!!' Really morons..get over yourselves. If it were real and ESPECIALLY Hell's Angels related you would be in a lot more fear and wouldn't even think of posting this online out of fear of retaliation. Plus..you'd be dead yourselves by now. Grow a fucking brain.

And by the way...as far as the sound of the gunshots...how is it that they are clearer than the guy talking directly into the mic? If the sound were real it would've sounded as shitty as the quality of the guy's voice. And it would've also made some kind of static/pop if it were that loud. It's not a good quality cam so it would've fucked the mic over pretty good

thats wicked dude

1) Ryder says fuck on cue, and seems to know when its about to happen. he even starts to slow his sentence as he hears the doors opening in the back.
2)there is NO news on this, iv searched melbourne shootings, brother shootings, etc and nothing came up
3) the car would be worth very little, it's a hunk of shit
4)no one from the brothel came out to help, and you didnt even check the guys pulses or try to help
5) It's not hollywood, gunshots do not sound that clear, and people crawl around crying and screaming before they die, at the least they have some movement.
6) it was made out to look like a headshot, but the heads look intact, and if it were a torso shot there would be alot more blood.. and they would take longer to die.
7) a clear cut in filming can be seen just as the shooters car exit the frame, and the footage turns black just for an instant
8) also, this instant is significantly different in episode 100 to the original (episode 1). (watchh the car exit the frame on both versions). I'm not sure how this or why this happened, but it does show that the footage has been tampered with.
9) as someone said before, the shooters would be watching the entrance of the brothel for the victims and not only see witnesses, but a camera!
10) the guy with the camera swaps position with the presenter to get a better view of the incident
11) it would be very clear for the camera man to see a guy running around in a balaclava in the background with a gun.. but he stays motionless until ryder yells FUCK.
12) everyone would react differently, but i doubt i would have the balls to actually film the car and the be above the car which is protection when i fear for my life, and just witnessed a double murder.
13) The christopher wayne hudson shooting was in the news for days, weeks. This was not, and there was even footage of it!
14) looks like the shot is made from the drivers seat window... i dont see why the back window has been shot.
15) seriously... first episode?
16) IF the police hasn't pulled this episode off (which i still dont understand... if it's real...) Then im sure the family of the two young men who died would. Do you think a family would want to witness, let alone let the whole world witness how their kid died? they also wouldnt want people to become succesful because of this!

I love the show, and it's a good way for publicity , but real or not.. i've lost respect
If it's real, then the catalyst of your success is because of a video you filmed of two people dying. You are exploiting a horrible thing, the death of two young men with families.

If it's fake, i've lost respect.. well because of the obvious, you lied. This show is awesome, you shouldnt have to rely on soemthing like this to become popular.
-H

all the people laying this off as a stunt or joke, are you all experts on guns, shootings and stuff hey, sayin people roll around n scream before they die or the sound of the guns wernt real??...your just geeks that plaay too many violent video games and watch too many movies..VCC good work!

The CBD shootings are not the same.

This is fake.

Very good fake out! If it was real, you would have included the newspaper clippings regarding this incident, but since there isn't any evidence, I give you and "E" for effort!

fake or not, these mofo's are retarded! WTF what happened to see if these dudes were breathing or not, like checking for a pulse or something! I understand you can be a bit shoock up, but dam, they're all standing there like retarded chickens! Looks real, but if it was fake, this whole sittin around watchin and filmin aint all that good for educational purposes....

fake... but cool.. u cant see the guy who got shot breathing

look stop with the shtitard crap. that looks fucking real im a freakin gun expert and that sounded like a 22. cal. that will NOT gush brains out and the back window was broken cuz the car his the licht pole wich it induced the shock and busted the window.plus people have been talking about y the brothel ppl didnt go out. well lets just put u in this situation: nwe years party and lets say suddenly an ak-47 goes off what whould u do
A.GO OUTSIDE AND SEE WHO GOT SHOT
B.CHECK AND GO OUTSIDE WHILE U GET SHOT
C.STAY INSIDE
ryder and the crew went over there to go see the damages and see if they were alright.
srsly if u saw HEADshoted ppl
would u think they were alive.

p.s. nice shit ryder

Fake, nice try though. Oh and to the comment above me there's no way a rolling car hitting a pole at 5 mph tops is enough to brake out an entire back window. If so then how come the glass shattering noise wasn't picked up at all when the gun shots were so clear?
Lots of clues in the above posts as well. The 2nd clip vehicle exit frame is clearly different than the original. So much for continuous footage.

i don't think the vive cool city team would pull a shitty stunt like that. i have no doubts about it's authenticity

This is fake i have witnessed a shooting and a stabbing before, My school was in the newspaper for it(Green School Stabbing) , There wound be alot more blood than that it looks like fake blood was just applyed to the optimal surface(white shirt), not to mention the skid marks (possible test run?) And the amazing part is their near a brothel those have security no one came out to see what the loud noise was thats a little odd to me . and to the "gun expert" that was a bit to loud to be a 22. and you can see the metallic gun pretty well in the light its shaped more like a 9mm.

Video Status: Fake

The cameraman deliberately zooms back and pans the camera to the right to get both cars in focus of the action to come, cameramen normally do this as they want the audience to focus what is happening in the background as well as the foreground.

How come they never mention the name of the brothel?

If they really 'called the police', why didn't they continue filming and show the police turning up?

He said to check articles on bikie related shooting at the time, done that, didn't come up with squat, only the CBD shootings came up, and this was legit as it was all over the news, this never was!

The gun lighting up the car can easily be produced using really good editing software, as well as the sound of the guns, they were put in in post production.

Why did they film it @ night?